Posts by The Leological One

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DF'd and dirty looks

by loosie in

i have a friend she is disfellowshipped.

she suffers from depression.

she wants to go back.

The Leological One

remember being told that the elders also want to observe whether or not one sings and whether they have underlined the study articles. Funny, I don't recall seeing that in the scriptures.

And based on my recent Memorial experience, even when they do have things "based" on scripture, the scriptures themselves are taken remarkably out of context~!

My (currently DF'd) wife told me they expect you to be present in front of the people. She was having crying spells at one point previously when she was being reproved for a while and said the elders wanted her to be in the main meeting, which she was having a very hard time doing.

I wish it were me instead of her; I'd be drawing pictures of the elders picking their own @sses, etc. and let them catch me underlining that~! Of course, that'd be easy for me to do since I don't agree at all with their views and DF'ing/shunning policies even though I'm sure there are decent elders out there that internally agree some of these policies are just simply hurtful and medievally ignorant.

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I went to the Memorial and to the Sunday meeting...

by JH in

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an elder came over last monday to invite me over to the memorial, and i went.

i also went to the sunday meeting.

they were happy to see me, and now the elder that came over monday, wants to come over again, this time with another elder..... for those that don't know, i'm inactive since y e a r s. i go to the memorial, and usually, that's it.

The Leological One

Hi JH,

This is what I felt like at the hall

Please forgive me if this question may be too personal; why did you go to the Sunday service, as well? Are you in the midst of trying to figure out whether you want to be a JW or not, or have you gone for family reasons, etc.?

Again, sorry for the questions, but I'm thinking if you're still searching for answers and aren't sure of your full stance, I don't think you're a "rat/mole". Admittedly it's very easy for me to know my stance since I've never been a JW, but seeing my wife's DF'ing and its impact on her, I can understand some people's feelings and reluctance to want to address the situation any further and stay faded.

In conjunction with a couple others on here, I agree that if you have a good reason, such as family or possibly not sure of your view of the society/possibly wanting to remain a JW based on beliefs, it might be a good idea to be really nice and not go into info that could get you DF'd. If you have to lie to keep from getting DF'd, please remember that these people would likely DF you in a second based on some messed up "new light" that could appear in any new WT mag.

Best wishes~!

Leonard

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HOw witnesses view worldly churches !!

by boy@crossroads in

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i still keep in touch with many witness associates (am not disassociated or dissfellowhsipped---trying to fade).

anyways, so a witness that i am not acqainted with sent an email out to everybody about one of his work days.

i thought it was pretty funny so i will post it below:.

The Leological One

Sad and Lonely,

I can't knock what you're saying, but I have to wonder if part of the reason you didn't understand the preaching was your age (unless the preacher was just speaking in a way that sounded like the "Taz" or something~! ). Also, you may not know the reasoning behind your sister moving around (dancing, likely) and so misunderstand it.

Remember, wasn't it David danced before the Lord with all his might, and the one who was so against it ended up being in the wrong? This isn't to say I know for sure the cases of which you speak and have seen some evangelical stuff going on I don't agree with, either. But this may be scriptural, after all. Even if that's the case, there are plenty of other churches who teach the Word very clearly and who aren't into intense dancing/praise & worship, etc., and that might be a better fit for you and surely wouldn't bother me to be in that type of church, either~!

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HOw witnesses view worldly churches !!

by boy@crossroads in

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friends

i still keep in touch with many witness associates (am not disassociated or dissfellowhsipped---trying to fade).

anyways, so a witness that i am not acqainted with sent an email out to everybody about one of his work days.

i thought it was pretty funny so i will post it below:.

The Leological One

Instruments that produce live music rather than the canned variety, candles, goblets, beautiful glass, the horror of it all. I would really hate to go to church in a place like that. I'd much rather to go one isn't called a church, that has no windows, some sad little fake plants in what looks like a stripped down classroom or low rent board meeting room where they don't have men of the cloth, but rather some janitor/window washer/carpet cleaner that can teach me the deep and subtle points of faith that all of these pompus churches have somehow missed or have been blinded to by the demunzzz, although I think I would make the sign of the cross when I go, just to put a smile on my face.

+ 1~!

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Funny JW

by Wild_Thing in

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i came across this picture some time ago and i just think it's funny!

lol!

i wonder what in the world he sees in there?

The Leological One

he just read that god will kill him for masterbating!

[edited: jic a little offensive, deleted my original post. ]

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Am I right about the WT being wrong?

by FreedomFrog in

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hi everyone.... i was "raised" as a dub and got baptised in '86...so in total i had been a jw for over 20 years.

i came to realize that the "way of life" i was living was in fact made up of mostly lies.

i started "questioning" the borg about 6 years ago and finally came out with almostatheist last sept. i know in my heart that they are mostly wrong and very legalist.

The Leological One

I had to challenge my own assumptions. That was my key. My assumptions were my filters that everything else had to pass through and they were flawed.

Garybuss,

Thanks again for the links earlier, and I totally like how you put your response~!

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Am I right about the WT being wrong?

by FreedomFrog in

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friends

hi everyone.... i was "raised" as a dub and got baptised in '86...so in total i had been a jw for over 20 years.

i came to realize that the "way of life" i was living was in fact made up of mostly lies.

i started "questioning" the borg about 6 years ago and finally came out with almostatheist last sept. i know in my heart that they are mostly wrong and very legalist.

The Leological One

Honesty, what exactly did it say? I kinda' have an idea but am just curious (I'm thinking about getting a CD or 2 of previous WT literature that shows problems with doctrines, prophecies, etc.).

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Whoo Hoo!! I'm no longer a Newbie!

by heatherg in

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such a momentus occasion, i've become a junior member!

The Leological One

Such a momentus occasion, I've become a Junior Member!

Sweet~! That's at least 3 of us today~! Congrats~!

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questions about a non-JW marrying a JW

by magpie in

i was wondering if any of you could answer a question for me?

my cousin just got engaged.

he (like the rest of our family) was raised in the lutheran church, though he doesn't really go very often anymore.

The Leological One

Oh; and I forgot something important:

If I were in that situation, I'd change the lock(s) so that nobody but the couple themselves have access to the apartment... that is, assuming the apartment doesn't belong to the mother or if the daughter is underage or something I'm not thinking of.

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questions about a non-JW marrying a JW

by magpie in

i was wondering if any of you could answer a question for me?

my cousin just got engaged.

he (like the rest of our family) was raised in the lutheran church, though he doesn't really go very often anymore.

The Leological One

...he said that they had discussed this, and that she had told him that JW's believe that when a woman marries outside of her religion, that she has to take the beliefs of her husband, since he is the head of the household. This sort of threw me for a loop. It contradicts everything I've ever heard or read, and I'm puzzled. Can anyone shed some light on this?

Hi Magpie,

I think I saw where someone else was saying this isn't true just as the page was disappearing after clicking on "reply," but I wanted to share that I have never been a JW but married one (who got DF'd for hooking up with me before getting married), and from what I understood by my short talk with an elder and from her, herself, is that the wife IS subject to the husband, but that doesn't mean she is subject to the husband's beliefs/religion -- only his decision-making in at least most areas.

I've also read where some marriages have gone really, really sour because of the religious differences where the WT pulls the wife away from the husband, demanding it (the WT) coming first before the marriage. THANK GOD my wife has been at least a little open to hearing my views and finally felt so down and out as a result of being DF'd that she went ahead and started looking at some info; first this forum, and then a page full of quotes of "prophecies," and looking at the link Garybuss provided to the book "Millions Now Living Will Never Die." I can say I'll respect her beliefs, whatever they are, and am just very glad she's been willing to look into whether the WT is the Truth after all or just another denomination of sorts that surely has proven it is not the Truth it claims to be.

I feel people should have the freedom to seek the truth if they start feeling that what they're hearing may not be fully it, and it's a tragedy that so many people are forced into accepting whatever words come from some small group of imperfect people somewhere as if it was God speaking, Himself.